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Would you mind writing that up in more detail and posting it somewhere? It sounds pretty interesting.

I will write about it at some point but can't get to it today.

You can grab the code here: https://github.com/mcotton/listing

I run it in Docker on my laptop or Synology NAS. It uses the OpenAI/Ollama URL schema for processing.


Write your duress PIN on the back of the phone. I guarantee you the first cop that sees it will go, "LOLOL!!!! HIS PASSWORD IS RIGHT THERE!!! LOLOL" and immediately enter it.


I heard for this reason police are now trained not to try any code that you can't go to jail for if it turns out to be a duress code. That means anything you didn't tell them was the unlock code.


> What will be the first device to bottle up AI and other modern technologies in a package and become widely in-demand

One problem I see is that corporations insist on collecting and reselling our data. As a result, a lot of people are reticent to get much automation. They seem to accept it with TVs, but other devices - it's just too much of an intrusion.

I say "a lot of people" but I don't know how many people it is, exactly.

There was recently a bit of a controversy with a refrigerator that had a big monitor on the door. That could actually be a cool feature: it could show you what's inside before you open the door. You could access it remotely if you're at the store and trying to remember if you have milk at home. But of course, the company started putting ads on it, and undoubtedly they're selling your data.


> it could show you what's inside before you open the door

I've always thought it would be cool to have transparent doors so you could see inside without needing to open the doors. Obviously, most people do not have "neat" fridge interiors and would be considered ugly and not a good look. But having those cool spy room windows that go frosted or mirrored or some other opaque look with the flip of a switch could solve that. Which tech is less expensive: dimming glass or cameras and monitors?


It would necessarily let heat leak in


I wonder if you could use two sheets of glass, and have a double-paned system. Maybe even with vacuum or some gas that's an even poorer conductor of heat than air in it.


Bars, restaurants and supermarkets have glass fronted refrigerators and freezers the world over, and yes, most are double glazed.

They're just less efficient and more likely to break. In a commercial environment that's worth it to show off the contents, but the trade off is different in a domestic setting.


I mean, supermarkets have huge freezer and cooler cases with no doors at all. The efficiency loss is just the cost of merchandising.


This actually isn't so bad with chest freezers, as the cold air in the freezer doesn't mix too much with the warm air above.


This is one for windows --- unfortunately, even the best such windows have a markedly lower R-factor than the much less expensive typical door construction.

Such refrigerators are available for commercial applications --- where the on-going energy usage is offset by the need for customer access, but it would be a huge impact on one's electric bill.


I hate that I'm being an advertisement for the corporate appliance dystopia. I'm sure it's somehow loaded with a whole bunch of surveillance, ads, and other anti-features. And I'm pretty sure it was from a brand where repair parts are essentially nonexistent. But I was shopping for appliances recently and I'm pretty sure I remember seeing a fridge like this. I think the shaded glass was based on an LCD mechanism.


HN crowd is not representative of the world at large. consumers don't care. cost and convenience are primary motivators.


Onve again it's been shown that consumers do care when they are properly shown the extent of data collection and/or are allowed to opt out.

E.g. when iOS introduced "ask apps to not track", 96% of users clicked "do not track": https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/96-of-us-users-opt-o...

If consumers didn't care, companies wouldn't go to extreme lengths to hide the fact that they are tracking you, and to invent craxier and crazier dark patterns to trick you into giving up your data.


What about when it's "accept all" and "reject and subscribe for $1.99"?


Illusion of choice forced onto you by the tracking industry. Again, if consumers didn't care, the tracking industry wouldn't need to present users with this "choice".


As far as I can tell, many “regular” people do care and alter buying decisions based on privacy concerns. They use words like “creepy” instead of technical ones, but the underlying discomfort is the same.


> They use words like “creepy”

This is common for useless products, like smart glasses or pendant-style AI devices. When consumers have clear utility, however, most give away privacy quite willingly.


> When consumers have clear utility, however, most give away privacy quite willingly.

Exhibits 1, 2, and 3; "Smart" phones, "Smart" watches, and pretty much 90% or so of "apps" people install on either from their respective "app stores".


I doubt the vast majority of people objecting to ads are doing it because creepy privacy invading reasons compared to just simply who would actually want ads running on a screen on the fridge? Who would actually just stand in front of the fridge watching an ad? Unless they really do something stupid like keep the fridge locked until the ad finishes, but really, who do they think is going to pay attention to it?


A screen with an ad on it is objectionable enough, even if the ad is untargeted.


> A screen with an ad on it is objectionable enough, even if the ad is untargeted.

Especially these days when pretty nearly the entire advertising industry has a whole library of "dark patterns" and psychological trickery they've effectively outright "weaponized" against the "consumer class".


The problem with ads is that they steal your attention to serve someone else’s commercial interests, whereas the objects in a home should serve its occupants’ purposes, practical or aesthetic. The fridge in particular is a site for displaying family information like the calendar, children’s artwork, etc. so an ad there, even an honest and passive one, is a violation.


Given the source code leak, I would think there'd be open source versions by now.


Given the fact that there's all these devs running around claiming a 10x productivity boost, I'm confused why Anthropic keeps thinking that a software client is some kind of moat.


Huh, that's right! You'd say that an enterprising developer with a 20x subscription could slopmaxx this in a weekend...


> there is no 'profit' step.

You have to learn to think like a drug dealer. The first hit is always free.

Companies and developers are growing more and more dependent on coding agents. Eventually, the owners of the AI will be able to charge whatever they want. What are you going to do? Go back to coding by hand? Do you even remember how?


> 99% of the traffic now is AI scraping the sources

I wonder if we should stop fighting this and instead create an API specifically for this purpose? Or, a central repository that you could send your data to and say to anyone wanting to scrape, "safe yourself some time and just get my data from this other place"


The thing though is that they are extremely idiotic. They are constantly, recurringly, scanning the same files, I suppose out of FOMO that a line might have changed. I don't know what a special API solves, especially because HTTP already has etags to save you from re-downloading the whole damn file over again. But these bots don't care. The extent to which they don't care is such that, after I temporarily took cgit down for kicks, they'd get 404s and still repeatedly ask for the sames files days on end.


If this is viral marketing for a typewriter company, it's genius.


Last manufacturer closed shop late-2010s (Indian).

But if you haven't ever composed on the OG desktop, you should give it a type.


There's no such thing as a zomboni roomba?


I f*** hope not.

People want to drive the Zamboni. It’s one of the coolest jobs out there.


people are expensive compared to robotic Zamboni, good business idea though


> "offshore Indian devs" are no slouches.

What evidence is there of the quality of Indian devs specifically?

One signal I'd expect to see, for example, would be success in programming competitions. Here's the list of winners of the IOI competition [1] - India has won 3 times.

Meanwhile, Turkey has won 4 times, Estonia has won 5 times, and Vietnam has won 22 times!

Why should we suspect that there are more or better developers in Indian than in any of the countries that has produced more winners??

[1] https://stats.ioinformatics.org/countries/?sort=medals_desc


Programming competitions are not the same as real-world engineering, plus these countries have way more people trying to use these competitions as a gateway to good jobs. Also, many good engineers emigrate to higher-income countries given the chance, and almost none will imigrate to low-income regions. The consequence is some sort of brain drain.


> Programming competitions are not the same as real-world engineering

That's true but irrelevant. Nothing is "the same" as anything else. My question was, what evidence is there that offshore Indian devs are of high quality. One expected signal with be ...that they demonstrate their programming skill.

> these countries have way more people trying to use these competitions as a gateway to good jobs

That's ridiculous!! You're claiming that Turkey, with a population of under a million, has "more people trying to use these competitions" than India, with a population in the billions????

> many good engineers emigrate to higher-income countries

Okay, but the claim was, "offshore Indian devs are good" - that cohort (i.e. the ones INSIDE INDIA) excludes the cohort you're talking about (emigrate to higher-income contries).

So, unless your point is, "yes, I agree with you, there is no evidence that offshore (still in India) devs are of high quality, and the reason is that the good ones emigrated" I think this statement is irrelevant.


Turkey's population is around ninety million.


Sorry. I meant to write, "population under a hundred million"


> AI data centers crowd us out.

Here's a test to know if this is/will be true: look for a situation where the "needs" of AI (e.g. land, electricity, etc) conflict with the needs of people (e.g. land to live on, grow food on, electricity to light our homes).

Find a place where the needs of AI conflict with people, and observe who wins out.

Does the entity that owns the datacenter say, "oh sorry! I guess we're using too much electricity. No worries! We'll stop doing that" ...or does it say, "lol too bad, all the electricity belongs to us!"

Does the entity wanting to build a datacenter say, "oh sorry! We thought you'd be okay with us using this land. But if you're not that's okay, we wont build here" ...or does it say, "lol too bad, we own the government and they're seizing the land under eminent domain!"

(both of these scenarios have happened, btw)


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