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I normally don't participate in these type of discussions on this one I will make an exception.

Macs are extremely bad in terms of thermal management in the long run. Yes sure, they will work absolutely fine in the store but they will slow down with your dev environment installed.

1. The Apple store is cooler and has better airflow than your cubicle/desk/room.

2. The vanilla operating system runs fast on any computer and os

3. intel CPUs are getting extremely hot when doing everyday ops on the computer (too early to talk about M class CPUs) 4. Random freezes are a real thing and there isn't much you can do about it.

5. Logic board changes are also a thing, I've witnessed temperature sensors breaking because of the bad thermals.

6. fan noise is awful. yes it won't run in the store or when the computer is new, but you will definitely notice once the issues begin

7. macbooks are not made to work with monitors - they support them. the primary usecase for a apple laptop is to work without a monitor. so be surprised if your monitor is not supported.

8. on pre m1 cpus any external monitor was also triggering the radeon gpus to fire up, causing thermal throttling to become active very quickly. kernel_task anyone?

This is a long one. recommended workarounds are:

- disabling turbo boost (why buy a "pro" computer in first place?)

- buying an egpu (external gpu) with an average price of $700

- use custom fan programs that ignore the SMC reported temparatures and dictate their own fan speed (can cause further thermal damage)

- using a specific 4k monitor (does not work)

Here are some interesting videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX6kZ3-UBuE

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=macbook+pro+int...

Try taking your intel macbook to the apple store and ask about this problem. they will really tell you that they have never heard about it. now try searching google and you will see thousands of people with the very same issues. apple will absolutely stonewall the issue and claim that you are the only person in the world experiencing this problem.

the list could go on for much longer but I'm too tired for that.

Do yourself a favor, if you are not planning to travel with the device, buy yourself a decent desktop computer with sufficient cooling for half the price.



I owned an Intel Mac and now own an M1 Max. The Intel and M1 are completely different beasts. My Intel would die in an hour and was always hot with the fan running. The battery life on my M1 is ridiculous. Hours and hours. I don't even know if it has a fan. It's silent and runs cool.


I'm VERY happy for you, I hope it stays the same.

I have returned all my macs and I am a happy Windows 11 user now. No fan noise, no thermal problems.




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