They showed an "unwillingness to support subsequent standards for those features", by blocking the creation of a standard in the first place. Stop being obtuse.
I think yours is the obtuse argument. The W3C has proceeded at a glacial pace on everything, not simply touch events. Is it your argument that Apple is preventing the W3C from standardizing corner radiuses?
Either way, I can hold two thoughts in my head at the same time: that Apple is indeed retarding standardization of touch events, while the W3C is retarding... everything else --- and then complaining about it.
Apple is a member of the W3C, so talking about Apple retarding the W3C process is not really in opposition to the idea that the W3C is responsible.
I do think it is fair to say that Apple is a key player in the W3C's issues, along with Microsoft.
It's a situation very much like the UN, where people opposed to the idea of cooperation use their lack of cooperation as proof of the idea that collaborative action is infeasible. Apple really wants people to use their walled garden as much as possible, so they are definitely among the parties intentionally sabotaging the W3C process.
I'm actually talking about iOS, especially the Apple App Store. Apple is threating to assert touch patents to prevent other vendors from implementing rich touch interfaces in the browser.
Eight years ago one might have called Java one of the most successful open source projects ever. Webkit could easily end up in a similar position. Given Apple's heavy litigation of their opponents, it seems almost inevitable.
So, the game has barely even begun yet. I suggest we revisit in 10 years and see how successful Webkit has been, for Apple, and our broader software community. (Because simply saying it is a success definitely suggests different things to different groups.)
No. Apple maintains a fork of Webkit, which is the version present on all their devices. The browser in their walled garden is the non open-source browser they force you to use on their devices.
You just totally changed what he said. He asked "Have they [the WebKit team] shown any unwillingness to support W3C standards once published?" Let's review the facts of the case you're talking about:
1. The WebKit team wasn't involved
2. Nobody was failing to support a published standard
Was somebody pulling a dick move in the article you posted? Yes. But it was a different group pulling a different dick move than the one tptacek asked about. If you want to argue that Apple's lawyers are a disagreeable lot, I suppose that's a valid point you could make, but this is not the thread for it.
blocking it? They just submitted their standards by the deadline, right? That's why you propose deadlines.... if planning was made assuming everyone would submit their stuff before said deadlines, well, maybe they need a refresher on project management?
