I don't think it's aimed at the same market. I mean: I can run large sample libraries on my MBP, but I don't see that happen any time soon on an iPad. There's not enough disk space, and I don't see the whole NI library eco-system adapt itself to iOS (let alone custom players like EastWest or Spitfire).

But it's a great option for people who've outgrown GarageBand.

Sure.. who's gonna pay for updates?

I don't understand how people on HN can devalue their own profession. By your reasoning, once an application has been released, you're out of a job.

Oh hey.. isn't that the current market!

Maybe just release and sell a complete and polished product? And add significant value to that product again before asking for more money? What about the notion of having enough pride and confidence in your work that you can make a solid value proposition regularly, and not yoke your customers to you permanently with a nebulous agreement?

Also, practically, consumers in the audio software market are more savvy and have higher expectations than those in other markets. In particular, they expect a fair ownership model (something provided by many plugin and DAW shops, big or small), and are wary of subscriptions and things like them. Perpetual licenses are the norm - in fact, even things uncommon in other software markets like the ability to resell your licenses are often provided due to market pressure.

Some people do not need the updates, some will pay a fair value for the updates. Nobody is asking for non-subscription software to be priced the same as the subscription.

Bottom line is that the App Store not having upgrade pricing has forced everything to become a subscription.

I also don't get it, everyone likes to get paid while refusing to pay for the work of others.

As a developer, I get it.

As a user, fuck subscriptions. Subscriptions just cause me to move all my tooling to open source variants over time. Developer livelihood is not my concern.

Maybe OSS with a Pateron-style model is the way forward?

Not all software requires babying and constant updates. These already work for most people and most use cases.

Well in this case it's not the same software, it's a touch-optimized iPad version so the original comment demanding a discount for having purchased the Mac version is...well, yeah

Let's ask the few decades of software developers/publishing houses who managed to make respectable incomes without requiring this subscription rent seeking nonsense.

This is Apple we are talking about, this is greed-based.

This is professional grade software and you won't pay $5 a month? Which you can cancel whenever you're not using it?

Why would you want to use iPad version if you already using it for Mac? It’s a big pain due to the file system and storage limitations. The ipad version is aimed more at non professional use but still giving them professional features. Would never touch ipad version, totally different use case. You won’t see Hollywood types saying I’m gonna use this because, because it’s touch screen

Why wouldn't you, very similar workflow and more portable. For sketching ideas you don't need multi terrabyte Kontakt plugins.

If you just want to sketch ideas, garage band could be enough. I mean both a Mac and iPad are quite portable, but i do see if you just want to professionally develop music on the cheap, iPad it is, you will have a hard time with the screen size however if you want to anything with many instruments and tracks

Yea, granted. I don't have any issues carrying my m2 air about for writing but it's still a bit cumbersome vs. ipad and I'll be trying out the new version for sure. Just seems complimentary rather than binary.